Back at the onset of this mess I'd have conversations with people close to me about what's driving it. I heard many conspiracy theories none of which I believe. I did and still do believe all that's necessary to explain it is human nature. I repeated many times it's driven by fear (dumb people) and people in leadership positions covering their asses. In this great interview with UK's Sir Desmond Swayne I got a confirmation of what I've said all along. No conspiracy necessary. Friends we're at the tipping point.